Discussion: Prophesied banking disruptions and inflation

Do not despise prophecies, but test everything; hold fast what is good

1 Thessalonians 5:20-21

Of Issachar, men who had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do

1 Chronicles 12:32

Recently, a video has gone viral of Pastor Dana Coverstone from Kentucky who had a series of 3 dreams. Essentially the first dream has been fulfilled in the Corona Virus and the recent civil unrest triggered by the death of George Floyd.

You can view that video here: https://youtu.be/6TdpMSMP9x4

What caught my attention at the end of the video were two notable aspects:

  1. roofs of banks being removed and money vacuumed out
  2. that change for a dollar was no longer needed because of inflation

So, whatever we make of this dream, it reminds me of many similar earlier prophetic words given by respected prophetic voices. Here are a couple :

John Paul Jackson: funding drying up and inflation: https://youtu.be/su7-gje3wwg?t=647
Shane Warren: Hurricane of worthless one dollar bills: https://youtu.be/87l4512Q4rY?t=1034

All of this aspect of financial difficulty fits into a bigger narrative, and that is the many times over prophesied great humbling of the USA in order to turn the Church and the nation back to God. For you reference, here are some key words related to this:

Great U.S. Humbling Prophetic Words:

Rick Joyner Civil War dream (April 2019). The fires burning in cities and riots in NYC and Chicago already has come to pass… https://youtu.be/HsOIF3w_5eM

Key Strategic Words given decades ago:
John Paul Jackson – Coming Perfect Storm https://youtu.be/kzPJjOzZorg
Bob Jones – Perfect Storm https://youtu.be/vl3Lnsahm2g

Grant Berry messianic friends wrecking ball vision very similar to Dana Coverstone dreams…
https://www.charismamag.com/blogs/prophetic-insight/44891-prophetic-vision-wrecking-balls-will-shatter-division-among-nations

Part 2…
http://charismamag.com/spirit/prophecy/45615-god-s-wrecking-balls-will-disintegrate-corruption-and-restore-the-u-s

Finally, all of what’s going on fits my 2008 train wreck dream :
https://newbreed.co/2013/10/04/train-wreck/

Important word from John Mulinde (click the link) who is Ugandan Apostolic leader in 2004
minute 6:12 in the video for USA: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5w8632tj0kqti5e/john%20mulinde%202004.mov?dl=0

  1. Mammon – my people have made money a god in my place
  2. Human pride in man’s achievements (Pharaoh: I built the Nile)
  3. Liberty to sin (hyper grace)

Raymond Mooi: Mammon and the Midianites: https://newbreedco.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/mammon-and-midianites-raymond-mooi-part-1.mp3

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

President John Adams 1798

Discussion:

Should there be separation or integration of Church and State; Church and Business?

How did we fall into money idolatry and greed?

Thesis I: The proliferation of greed (and the systemic lack of concern for the poor, for people) in the normal course of business practices of our nation which continues to spread largely unchecked, even unnoticed, is due to building upon a foundation of falsehood (building house on sand Matt 7:26).

That falsehood is the premise that business (and government) should be done in the absence of religion. Religion or faith should be practiced in private, goes the falsehood as it is a personal matter and has no place in business. Because of this lie being reinforced by shareholders, managements, governments, HR departments, and civil court rooms among other institutions, the enemy has crept in mostly unawares, allowing blind spots to grow writ large where few biblically anchored moral and ethical voices are allowed to speak up. Because too often our country’s founding Judeo-Christian faith must be “checked at the door” when it comes to business, it creates a vacuum of ethical and moral grounding – a relativism, which is filled in with rationalization of profitability, efficiency and expediency.

This is a conformity to a “white washed” set of business practices that is designed to be “swallowed” as a “business is business” in the name of efficiency and effectiveness (just leave faith private). It is a conformity to a “Spirit of this World” and the opposite of Holiness unto God (set apart and consecrated). (Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind -Romans 12:2)

Sometimes I refer to this as a barbell strategy. Make all you can, however you can (all is fair in love, war and business). Then, tithe and be generous with the spoils. If you do, God shines his favor on you. Many Christians fall into this trap. I fell into this trap. My Christian mentors encouraged me in this trap because it helped fund the ministry. I call it being a Business Pharisee. I have even heard the following quote used to ratify such an approach: “Earn as much as you can. Save as much as you can. Give as much as you can”- John Wesley

This premise is false. God cares as much and probably more about how you and I conduct our business practices and HOW we make money than what we do with the money.

Which leads us to…

Thesis II: The most impactful engine for socio-economic improvement, social justice, serving the poor, building up neighborhoods, giving people access to good jobs and education is business itself. It’s not the government. It’s not even churches. I would argue, business done well under God literally creates healthy economy, creates jobs, creates a type of family, demonstrates the gospel with deeds not just words, creates opportunity, and glorifies God. As Christians come together and serve the community together through our businesses, joined together in unity, loving our neighbor as ourselves, I believe there is no greater force of good that can be unleashed on a nation, region, state or city. Lastly, I believe the only viable platform to achieve this properly are privately owned companies (not publicly traded ones), funded by capital that is not attached to the traditional financial markets, banking, venture or private equity systems and influences. All such capital all comes with “strings attached” and a return on capital expectation as the top priority, really the only priority if we are honest (and therefore becomes the object of worship).

Salt and light. A light shining on a hill – Matt 5:15

Discussion:

Wall Street or Main Street Part II

What does our money idolatry look like?

In our weekly Zoom call (email info@newbreed.co if interested in joining), we discuss what is wrong with our current system and economy. Has the church been defensive about “Capitalism” and even tried to defend systemic greed? How have our financial markets systematized greed and how did we get here? Can it be undone? We discuss the sin of Sodom’s greed and specifically Ezekiel 16:49.

Wall Street issues

  • Hiding behind the opacity of “shareholder’s interests”
  • Wall Street profit “expectations” and the role of research analysts
  • Debt as leverage to maximize profit
  • Advent of the LBO and the hostile takeover in the 80s (“Greed is Good”)
  • Excess capital used for shareholder buybacks
  • Complexity of the civil justice system requires specialized attorneys to navigate
  • Rationalization of job relocation, elimination- explaining away decisions by “we had to do it” to preserve the company

Main Street issues

  • Manipulation of systems for extraction of money. Example: healthcare
  • Blame game: Wall Street is the scapegoat, yet all feed at it’s trough
  • Our consumer culture’s insatiable appetite for products and services
  • 70% of our GDP is consumer spending
  • Debt dependency of the consumer, corporate, municipalities, government
  • The Church and how its feeds on our consumer and money culture
  • Unholy alliance among politics, taxes and money
  • Parallels between chattel slavery and modern day economic slavery
  • Two income households the new requirement

Mentioned on the call last week, the “Field of Dreams” word from Rick Joyner in 1995. This is well worth reading:

https://newbreed.co/2012/12/11/field-of-dreams/

It describes well the economic dynamic we are now entering into in the USA. It contrasts the chaos and fog of the situation on the ground, with the position of the Church being an oasis of hope, joy and unity and a “hospital” to those who are hurting.

Dutch Sheets “Conversation with Chuck Pierce” podcast 3/25/2020:

https://www.buzzsprout.com/952780/3124357-conversation-with-chuck-pierce

Chuck Pierce Words

  • August 2019: “By Passover this year, you will have a real Passover”
  • 5780 Rosh Hashanah Sep 26-29: “Nations would come into turmoil until Passover”
  • 2020 “Start Year off Right” Jan conf: “Massive plague-like invasion that would test us through Passover” (I believe CP related to the Egyptian plagues and Passover)
  • “Tighten your Belts” (gird up your loins)
  • The Lord said this will be a hard financial year
  • Las Vegas Jan 26th 2020 said same – got rebuttal and pushback

Since the CV outbreak Chuck has said…

  • “God has put a PAUSE until He sees who is willing to cross over with Him through His blood at Passover”
  • “The Church will need to understand the blood (of Christ). They will experience a real Passover this year…”
  • Passover is a turning point in history for the next move of God. This virus will start shifting at the Passover. The nations will start aligning themselves for or against God. Greatest turning point in history for the next move of God.
as of April 14, 11:00 a.m. EDT
Sources: CDC, state officials and NBC News
  • Warning do not trust in self-strength from 2 Sam 24: “In this census, David had relied on man’s strength but cut off Heaven’s power and all the Hosts and Armies of heaven. How did he do this?  He had forgotten the Word and edict that was given Moses in Exodus 30:11-16, the Law of Ransom — when you take a census, bring an offering.  David then built an Altar to the Lord and gave an offering, and the plague stopped.” CP said something like “I don’t care who you are, you can’t count on your own strength before God” – alluding to the President’s statements about his leadership in USA strength economy, markets, military. He also noted this is a census year in USA
  • Chuck also made mention that we have a golden calf in NYC, alluding to the global financial markets
  • If the church doesn’t rise up in prayer in 2020, China would have complete economic domination by 2026. Even America would look like China.
  • By August 2020, the Church will have a new voice in America

This is the Passover that the economic system of the world gets realigned” – Chuck Pierce

  • Also Chuck noted that after all of the bitter division in our nation and cursing of the President these past 3 years (investigations, impeachment, etc.), it would have been a surprise if we had NOT received a plague

Rick Joyner, 2004; 2006

Excerpt from “THE RING OF FIRE IS NOW SHAKING WITH EARTHQUAKES ALMOST WEEKLY–THE WEST COAST IS ON THE SAME RING OF FIRE” Word Published October 19, 2006

The New Breed

Just as true warriors run to the sound of battle, not away from it, there are Kingdom messengers who will not run from disaster and problems, but to them. They will not shrink back from any level of chaos, but rather bring order and peace to it. As the world continues to fall apart, they will stand on solid ground, and in due time begin to draw the attention of the world because of it. These will not lose their peace in the midst of any threat or problem because they will have built their lives on the Kingdom that cannot be shaken by anything happening on the earth. Their peace will calm many storms.

We are in the time when those who have built their lives on the Kingdom of God, and those who have not, will become increasingly clear.

One of the basic characteristics of those whose lives have been established on the Kingdom of God, is that they will have peace and come alive, even thriving during times of trouble. This is because they have been prepared to live in the greatest time of trouble the world has ever known. They prepared by building their lives on the Kingdom, not on the things of this world that are so easily shaken.

This new breed are the friends of the Holy Spirit, who saw the world and moved upon it in its original state of chaos, and will do so again upon the chaos mankind has created by trying to live without God. Just as the Holy Spirit brought forth a beautiful creation before, He will bring forth a new creation after this chaos, that even eclipses the first in its beauty and harmony.

It is simply impossible for mankind to mess up things so badly, that the Holy Spirit cannot fix them, quickly and easily. All we have to do is turn to Him and ask. In preparation for the restoration of mankind and the earth that is coming, He will begin to move upon the problems and chaos in the lives of all who call upon the name of the Lord. We are going to know the Holy Spirit as the One who can fix anything, easily and quickly. As we are charged in Philippians 4:6-7:

“Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all comprehension, shall guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.”

The New Breed (excerpt from Prophetic Bulletin, Feb 29, 2004)

One of the most tragic statements in the Bible is Philippians 2:19-21:

“But I hope in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy to you shortly, so that I also may be encouraged when I learn of your condition.

For I have no one else of kindred spirit who will genuinely be concerned for your welfare. For they all seek after their own interests, not those of Christ Jesus.”

Paul spent his life sacrificing his own interests, and even risking his life repeatedly for the sake of the gospel. After all those years, he only had one associate, Timothy, who was not in ministry for his own interests, but was sincerely seeking the interests of the Lord. How would the ministry of today measure up to this?

I have become convinced that, overall, the leadership of the church in our times is probably the greatest since the first century. We do have many failures, which receive most of the publicity. However, there are many today that have likewise sacrificed their own, selfish interests their entire lives to serve the interests of Christ and His people. For those we should be very thankful. Even so, the basic fabric and nature of modern ministry has more in common with a profession or a business, than a calling. That is about to change.

As the church has grown further from the cross over time, the more selfish and deceived it has become. We can find great souls in each generation who did behold the cross, and took up their crosses daily, doing all things for the sake of the gospel. These are the great and continuing voices from history which still speak. These are the ones who heeded the Lord’s exhortation in Matthew 16:24-25:

“If anyone wishes to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.

For whoever wishes to save his life shall lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake shall find it.”

The Lord began speaking to some of us twenty years ago, saying, “the cross will be popular again.” He also said that when this happens, a new breed of leadership, a new breed of Christians, and a radically new church would arise. We have now come to that time. There is going to arise within the church a renewal movement which truly deserves the name. It is going to be so radical and so powerful, that it is going to make all things new. The present emerging generation has been called the most selfish yet. Selfishness and arrogance have become increasingly powerful strongholds within it. Even so, where sin increases, grace will increase even more (see Romans 5:20). The emerging generation will produce the most selfless and self-sacrificing Christians seen since the first century. This is going to result in a release of spiritual power and authority such as has not been seen since the first century. True apostles are going to walk the earth again, and where they walk, true apostolic churches will arise.

This new breed of Christians will be the most fearless people on earth because they will have already died to this world, and it is impossible for the dead to fear. They will walk in unprecedented faith because they will have learned the secret of not looking at themselves and who they are, but at the Lord and who He is. They will not live by faith in their own abilities, but by faith in His strength. They will walk in unprecedented power because they will have learned the secret: the cross “is the power of God” (I Corinthians 1:18)