Roundtable Discussion – No Plan B in the Kingdom of God

  • Lot came out of Sodom. But, his wife looked back (Gen 19)
  • Israel came out of Egypt. But that generation looked back (Num 14)
  • Judah came out of Babylon. But Ezra commanded them to leave their foreign wives and children (Ez 10)

Today we share testimonies of coming out of financial Egypt / Babylon and trusting God instead for provision with miracles coming forth. No half in, half out. No one foot in the world, one foot in the Kingdom. No Plan “B”.

We discuss the importance of avoiding fallback plans as FAITH-KILLERS and SELF-SABOTAGE, subconsciously or otherwise. Often this has to do with fear and control. When we fully trust God and eliminate fall-back plans, God honors our faith and often involves miracles.

And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him

Hebrews 11:6

The Lord said to Gideon, “You have too many men. I cannot deliver Midian into their hands, or Israel would boast against me, ‘My own strength has saved me.’

Judges 7:2

But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. Such a person is double-minded and unstable in all they do

James 1:6-8

Part of the discussion will surround the implications of leaving behind institutional debt and mortgages, FICO scores, stock market gains, 401k/IRA retirement plans, bigger barns, etc. We will hear testimony of vows made in obedience to God and their scriptural precedent.

Now listen, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.” Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. Instead, you ought to say, “If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.

James 4:13-15

An Israelite’s Failed Retirement Plan:

The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’ “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’ “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself? This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.

Luke 12:16-20

In that day every man shall cast away his idols of silver, and his idols of gold…

Isaiah 31:7

An interesting perspective on these things: Preparing for the End Times with Monte Judah:

We also examine the difference between faith in what God said and desires, versus divining what we want or vainly imagine/desire. And how that often gets confused in our money culture. And the more innocent matter of “I thought what God said would happen looked different than what actually happened”.

Interview – Uganda Storehouses with Joel Frazier

Joel in Jinja

This week we hear from Joel Frazier about his recent missions trip to Uganda, explore the intersection between the Storehouse and missions work, and pray into the future of this mission.

Jinja, Uganda
Discipling missions trip in the New Breed of Business

Uganda Charcol Project.jpg
Charcoal Kiln Project

Uganda Macrome Project.jpg
Ugandan Macrame Entrepreneurs

Joel Clownin’ with the Kids


Storehouse Vision


Joel’s debt miracle and refinancing story in the NECAP
Jinja, Headwaters of the Nile

Gregg’s ministry trip Jan 2007 to Uganda. Had a dream about the inheritance of the Storehouse and the New Breed of Business. Ministered in Jinja, where Joel went 15+ years later, fulfilling the dream…

Chris Lucey: A ministry to look up later for reference is ELI :

Roundtable Discussion: How to Start a Storehouse 

This is Part 4 in a Storehouse “How To” Series
(our next session will be “Structure and Governance”)

By Way of Review

Storehouse Vision

How to Create a Storehouse podcast Series:

Part 1: Seeding Storehouses

Part 2: Why a Storehouse?

Part 3: Needs not my Own

How to Begin

We will discuss the basics of starting a Storehouse using two types of funding models at any group level (church community, city, county, state, region, nation) :

1. Create an evergreen “Common Fund” or “Storehouse Fund” to serve a community on an ongoing basis. You can think of this as an “and they laid the proceeds at the Apostles feet” as per Acts 4:35. You also can think of this as an Endowment or Foundation.

2. “Storehouse Project” funding whereby individuals within a community can opt-in or invest side-by-side and project by project. As part, each individual can also “store” resources in a type of account where they have the flexibility and choice to: invest from, transfer funds in and out of, have principal returned to, donate, purchase goods or services with, and receive gifts or dividends. There are 3 basic types of projects, which we generally categorize as: Assist (benevolence), Equip (interest free loans) and Destiny (dividending loans).

And how a hybrid of the two works together…

These models will focus around a simple USD based Storehouse, but can be done with any currency, or you can create a local currency (see Alt Currency podcast).

Examples mentioned in podcast

Mully Movie

Money has become a god to My people

Roundtable Discussion

– What happened?
– How did we get here?
– Future of Crypto?
– Implications for the Storehouse Vision
– Failure of Crypto’s “Bridge” and the “Ark”
– How greed undergirds and undermines crypto

By way of review… 

Crypto :
Bitcoin :
Alternative Currency :
I’ve Come to Give P2 :
Currency Wars :
Israel and Inflation :

Quotes, Etc.

Crypto is “100% based on greater fool theory” – Bill Gates CNN Article

“FTX is the safest and easiest way to buy and sell crypto” – Tom Brady; FTX ad

What is Tulip Mania?

FTX Bankruptcy

Sam Bankman-Fried, founder of FTX


FTX Assets Stolen or Missing

FTX worse than Enron – WSJ article


FTX Collapse Explained – YouTube

How FTX Suddenly Imploded – WSJ Podcast

Everyday Crypto Investors Caught in FTX Implosion – NPR Podcast

Stable Coins not so stable

“Death Spiral” of stable coins – Spotify WSJ Podcast

Tether Slips from $1 Peg

Inside Crypto’s $45Bn Collapse with Terra Founder Do Kwon

God’s Economy in the One New Man – Key Principles Part 2

Study Every 2nd Wednesday for 12 Sessions from 9-11am Eastern

Today’s Discussion will focus on the Key Principles of the Reconnection and the New Breed of Business, Part 2. The intersection of The One New Man and the New Breed of Business. The intersection of the “Reconnection” and “Coming out of Babylon”.

See Syllabus for the first 6 sessions.

September’s Study: R911/NBB Study Intro

October’s Study: Key Principles Part 1

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Coming out of Babylon / ONM Key Scriptures:

John 17 Unity: The harvest (the whole world will know Christ) will come through true unity in the Body of Messiah/Christ.

2 Corinthians 5 : The ministry of reconciliation. First between man and God. Then between one another.

Ephesians 2:16 : That such reconciliation is made first between Jew and Gentile. Without which, how can an within “the two become one”?

2 Corinthians 6 : Come out and be separate from Babylon .What does Christ have to do with Satan? Do not partner together with unbelievers.

1 Corinthians 3 : Strife, Divisions, Carnal, Worldliness work against Holiness and Unity. Maturity requires Holiness and is the process of sanctification. No one gets credit other than what God gives. No one gets another wage other than the Lord deems fair. No one can build apart from Christ if they expect the work to last and survive the test by fire. The sign of immaturity in Christ is division (a lack of unity).

Common Pitfalls

Using Galatians 3:28 to justify another gospel: False Teaching: No longer Jew nor Greek means there is no distinction any longer between Jew or gentile. But how could this be if we clearly know in fact that there is still a distinction between Man and Woman which is a parallel sighting in the scripture: There is no longer Male nor Female?

Believing we have “Come out of Babylon” when we still adhere to logic such as: Self-preservation – “God helps those who help themselves”. Or, Mammon – “Well, without the money it can’t be done.” Or, “Seek-first Provision” – “Well, I guess god didn’t call me to do something because he didn’t provide the money for me to do it.” Or when we follow the doctrine of the world in “Separation of Church and State” “Separation of Church and Business” “The Business of Business is Business”

Roundtable Discussion
Financial Markets Update with a Prophetic Perspective

Background Reading

This is part 2 of an “Economic Update” – part 1 can be found here:

Also, worthy of review by way of background:

Nowhere to Hide (market downturn)

New Material

WSJ: China Stock Drop largest since 2013

1/2/2007 Japanese Economy and Markets word (4 Page PDF)

Rick Joyner Prophetic Perspective based on 3-11-2011 Japan earthquake videos:

Economy and Japanese Earthquake

Special Alert – Japanese Earthquake Part 1

Special Alert – Japanese Earthquake Part 2

Special Alert – Japanese Earthquake Part 3

Special Alert – Japanese Earthquake Part 4

Special Alert – Japanese Earthquake Part 5

Gary Crawford’s word for testing about potential market drop near term

Jonathan Cahn in the sky dreams – CA coast (to be presented)

Roundtable Discussion – Economic Update in Prophetic Context

Bank of England buys Gilts?

Recently, there have been a few significant shakings in the financial markets, particularly in Europe, that have been stayed for the moment. Specifically and most recently, we had the Bank of England step in on an emergency basis to buy UK Gilts (like US Treasuries) to stave-off a financial crisis caused by “Liability Driven Investment” derivatives which is a fancy name for a leveraged “free lunch”. This is a Quantitative Easing move in a time of tightening of monetary policy. This reveals the vulnerability of the central banks to yet another crisis.

This was generally blamed in the mainstream press on Liz Trust’s administration’s new taxation and economic policies (of unfunded tax-cuts). Which was probably more political than stark reality. At least we can say this, Investors are rejecting the UK govt’s ability to tax and the pound as any kind of safe haven. You can read a good summary about it here: Bank of England Buys Bonds in Bid to Stop Spread of Crisis and Bank of England Further Expands Bond-Market Rescue to Restore U.K.’s Financial Stability

Credit Suisse

Now just a few scant days prior to this we had the Credit Suisse meltdown. NOTE, both the UK and Switzerland are independent of the EU. Credit Suisse is Swiss based even though they have a significant US presence through completing the acquisition of First Boston in 1990. Here is an article encapsulating how the Reddit meme stock crowd almost sunk the venerable Swiss Bank: How Credit Suisse Became a Meme Stock. (alt free article) Deutsche Bank also got swept into the bankruptcy concerns in early Oct with its stock price also declining precipitously triggering liquidity concerns all over again.

So, here is some prophetic context:

1. David Wilkerson prophecy from the 80s. See PDF below:

2. John Paul Jackson – Nations Bank word:

Other Relevant Prophetic Headlines JPJ saw:

“The Great divide – The new Normal on the Mississippi River”
“Record Set for Number of Cities with Riot Curfews”
“Martial Law to be extended for 30 More Days”
“Blight in Grains Spreading”
“Drought Continues to cause Prayer to Rise”
“Loss of Identity – The Cost to Belong to the New Euro Community”
“Demand for Classic Seeds Skyrocket”
“Derivative Panic Hits Global Markets”
“Food Prices Lead Nation’s Escalating Inflation Woes”
“Sysco Co and Kraft Considers Guards on Delivery Trucks as Food Nears 40% of the Family Budget”
“Big Regulations Hit Small Banks”
“Credit Markets Freeze Up”
“The New Face of Robinhood – Flash Mobs Loot Rich Neighborhoods”

3. Rick Joyner – Economic Future of USA

4. “I am uprooting the money tree” / “I am uprooting the men of money” spring 2010 word of the “No Name” storm knocking out power for 3 weeks in Fairfield County CT. Power outage greatest and longest according to the wealth of the town.

5. Ezekiel 29-32. 7-fold judgment against Egypt (aka Global Financial Markets). 40 year wilderness. Great humbling. Becoming “desolate”.

One New Man and the New Breed of Business

Study Every 2nd Wednesday for 12 Sessions from 9-11am Eastern

Tomorrow’s Discussion will focus on the key principles of the Reconnection and the New Breed of Business, part 1. The intersection of The One New Man and the New Breed of Business. The intersection of the “Reconnection” and “Coming out of Babylon”. See syllabus attached for the first 6 sessions.


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Roundtable – Debunking Babylon

debunk – expose the falseness or hollowness of (a myth, idea, or belief). Oxford Languages

How can the Queen of England’s passing help us understand both God’s redemptive plans for nations as well as His judgment of “Harlot Babylon” among the nations? We will explore…

The Finality of Babylon’s Doom
“With such violence the great city of Babylon will be thrown down, never to be found again.” Revelation 18:21

“Babylon refuses to mourn, but My people will mourn before My return.” – JFriz Word of the Lord 2004 (paraphrase of Rev 18)

Background reading:

Come out of Babylon
10 Practical Steps to Come out of Babylon

Key Scriptures

Don’t Partner with Babylon

Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will live with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”


“Come out from them
and be separate,
says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you.”


“I will be a Father to you,
and you will be my sons and daughters,
says the Lord Almighty.”

2 Corinthians 6

Come out of Slavery and Servitude to Babylon

“‘Come out of her, my people,’
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues;”

Revelation 18:4

“This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Let my people go, so that they may hold a festival to me in the wilderness.’”

Exodus 5:1

Read this for more understanding: Am I a Slave?

In financial terms:

Partnership = stock ownership / equity

Slavery = debt to a “Babylonian” institution; income from an “Babylonian” institution

In our discussion, we will cover:

  • Chris Reed prophecy Jan 2022
  • Queen Elizabeth and Liz Trust 2 days
  • Brexit
    • Hope for Britain
  • Separation of England from Babylon
  • Separation of US from Babylon
    • The purposes of heaven
    • Mission sending
    • Original intent
  • Revelation 22:24 and Zachariah 14:16 speaks of the nations repenting and coming up to Jerusalem
  • The degradation of Babylon over time
  • Prophetic analogy of Lion and wings of an Eagle

“The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a human being, and the mind of a human was given to it.” Daniel 7:4

  • Shermara Fletcher, Principal Officer for Pentecostal and Charismatic Relations, Churches Together in England, Queens Funeral, recipient of 2020 exceptional young persons award of the wise women awards

A book on affordable housing? That the Church and the people of God need to help others with housing in commerce and economy? Yes, the Queen’s death leads to life.

From our friend Christpher Lucey:

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the LEAST of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’” – Jesus; Matthew 24:40

The Reconnection and New Breed of Business

Romans 911 Study Every 2nd Wednesday for 12 Sessions from 9-11am Eastern

Today’s discussion will focus on the introduction to the purpose and content of this study of the intersection between the “One New Man” and the “New Breed of Business”. The intersection of the “Reconnection” and “Coming out of Babylon”. A syllabus will be handed out for the first 6 sessions.

Background Reading/ Listening

Ezra Calling Podcast

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