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I HEARD THE LORD SAY “PRAY IN THE SPIRIT AND PRAY THE WORD. FOR THE ENEMY IS ATTEMPTING TO CHANGE YOUR VIEW”

by Lana Vawser Ministries
This week I had a vision and I saw many in the body of Christ looking through what looked like ‘viewfinders’. These viewfinders looked like ones children use and you push the lever on the side and what you see changes. I watched as the enemy was prowling through the body of Christ and he was coming against many that were feeling defeated, tired, and downtrodden and they felt like they were losing their ‘fight’. I saw the enemy come slithering up alongside them and he began to press the lever and the view would change. The picture they were seeing was then not the accurate one. I then heard the Lord say “Pray in the spirit and pray the Word for the enemy is attempting to change your view.”

As God’s people prayed in the spirit and prayed the Word of God I saw the kids viewfinders turn to telescopes. The Lord was speaking about an upgrade of sight and prophetic vision of what is to come. In the praying in the spirit and praying the Word was a covering and shelter upon them to stop the enemy coming and changing the scene.

I heard the Lord say “The enemy is tampering with vision. It is very important right now to be asking for wisdom (James 1:5) and discernment for the enemy is coming against many of My people in such ‘sly’ ways to ‘change the vision’ and ‘change the scene’. There is an unprecedented upgrade in heavenly wisdom, insight, and understanding and the enemy is attempting to ‘change the scene’, to cause My people to despair, to cause My people to feel hopeless, discouraged, and feel weighed down.

For this is the hour that I am awakening My people to the POWER of My PROPHETIC VOICE. This Is the hour where I am awakening My people to My power that they walk in when they are walking in heavenly vision, wisdom, and strategy. The enemy is working hard to bring confusion and heaviness against My people and cause such deep despair that they lose hope in the vision I have given them. But I say unto you My people, pray in the Spirit and pray My Word and watch the enemy flee. The enemy is attempting to lull you back to sleep with deceptive scenes that are not from Me and are opposite to the Rhema words that I am speaking into your life for your life, for your cities and nations. You MUST remain awake and diligent and vigilant in praying in the Spirit and praying My Word.”

THE SCROLLS FROM HEAVEN THAT CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE AND CHANGE YOU FOREVER

The Lord showed me that many that are being assaulted by this constant assault from the enemy ‘changing the scenery’ through his lies, his confusion, his deception to keep the Church asleep, without a voice, and hidden in the shadows. The Lord showed me that the enemy is wanting the people of God walking around confused and living reactionary and on the defense rather than the offense.

I had a vision and the Lord began to show me that this is such a significant time right now, especially leading up to Rosh Hashanah. There are scrolls from heaven that the Lord Is releasing that contain insight, revelatory understanding, and wisdom for the new Hebrew Year and this era that contains such strategy and specifics of the Lord’s intentions that as God’s people receive, embrace and obey what is written on these scrolls that there will be significant shifting of landscapes as we know it, and the revelation contained within these scrolls is so deep, the mysteries of God (Daniel 2:22) so profound that engaging with the Holy Spirit in ‘eating’ these scrolls will bring incredible transformation to God’s people. I watched as boldness filled God’s people in the revelation of what the Lord had spoken and written upon the scrolls. I watched as God’s people were full of vision, clarity, and insight. I watched as the fear that had muzzled them and the haze of confusion suddenly broke off and a conviction of the word of the Lord burned deeply within them.

The Lord spoke again “What is contained on many of these scrolls is for NATIONS. As these scrolls are received, as they pray, intercede, and decree what I have written on these scrolls, and as they release and obey the strategy I am releasing in My wisdom, it will change the TERRAIN of NATIONS.” The sense then surrounded me SO strongly of Habakkuk 2:14 “For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.” (ESV)

RECEIVING THESE SCROLLS WILL CHALLENGE AREAS OF UNBELIEF AND IGNITE NEW LEVELS OF FAITH

The Lord showed me that these scrolls will EXPOSE and CHALLENGE areas of unbelief in hearts. There is an invitation contained within these scrolls to partner with heavenly wisdom and heavenly VISION. In the exposing and challenging areas of unbelief in the heart, repent and align yourself with what the Lord is speaking and what He is revealing, will ignite new levels of faith in God’s people and the invitation will be weightier than it has been to ‘live from your seat’ (Ephesians 2:6). It is IMPERATIVE to embrace and align with what the Lord reveals on these scrolls. It is time for the body of Christ to align in greater ways with the Word of God, His wisdom and what He is speaking (Matthew 4:4)

The Lord is going to demonstrate the POWER of His prophetic voice in this hour and He is looking for those who are not living on the ground and living in the natural realm, He is looking for those who are living from their seat and will take Him at His Word no matter what it looks like or what the cost. The Lord wants all to receive these scrolls He is releasing in this new era, but pride, opinion, presumption, and assumption, will hinder many from receiving these scrolls. It those that are walking in humility, purity, tenderness of heart towards the Lord, truly friends of God that are going to be the ones that will carry and operate in the wisdom contained on these scrolls.

The enemy is fighting many hard right now to ‘confuse’ vision and change the ‘view’ because there is a significant increase of heavenly vision, wisdom, and clarity upon God’s people that are positioned, asking, and waiting for it. (Proverbs 8:34-35 TPT) Keep praying in the Spirit and pray His Word and watch the enemy flee

November 11-14th
New Breed Gathering San Antonio

We are gathering in San Antonio this November 11 as a remnant united, repenting and standing in the gap for America’s four great sins that God judges every nation for in scripture : Forsaking God, Shedding of Innocent Blood, Sexual Immorality and Greed. We will also be moving into the new wineskin by teaching on the Lamb’s reformation, preparing the Bride for the coming wedding banquet, entering into into the Millennium, and establishing the Government of God on the earth.

Implementation Example

Part II: Mission City, San Antonio with Jonathan Serenil

Website: https://cityonamission.com
Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/missioncitysanantonio

History of Apostolic Ministry Center Revelation:

  • 1999 Superbowl Sunday vision of Mission City
  • 2017 MA trip led to Jonathan Friz 2017 and Northfield ARK model
  • 2019 CO trip met Gayle Perry and Lighthouse Vision
  • 2019 FL Trip – Intercession City, FL model

Related Models

  • Cities of Righteousness (Gary Crawford)
  • Cities of Refuge (Jews making Aliyah and Church underground railroad)
  • Apostolic Hubs (Chuck Pierce)
  • Holy Spirit Hot-Spots
  • St. Patrick and Celtic “Monasteries”
  • Freedom Centers
  • Collaborative ARK (Northfield, JAMA)
The 4-in-1 Model

The “One”

  • Prayer (e.g., Moody Chapel, Mt. Zion HOP, intercession, Tabernacle of David 24/7 worship and prayer)

The “Four”

  • Missions (e.g., Student Volunteer Movement, US Center for World Missions, Inherit The Nations)
  • Education (e.g., Moody girls and boys school, Training and Equipping for the NE Church, CS Lewis University)
  • Church Unity (e.g., summer campground gatherings, NE united nights of worship, 10 Days events)
  • Local Community (e.g., Trinity church Northfield, farming, local commerce, housing)

HUB and Spoke cell structure

  • Tying all types of churches together through HUB and spoke system

November 11-14th
New Breed Gathering San Antonio

We are gathering in San Antonio this November 11 as a remnant united, repenting and standing in the gap for America’s four great sins that God judges every nation for in scripture : Forsaking God, Shedding of Innocent Blood, Sexual Immorality and Greed. We will also be moving into the new wineskin by teaching on the Lamb’s reformation, preparing the Bride for the coming wedding banquet, entering into into the Millennium, and establishing the Government of God on the earth.

Discussion: The future of Crypto Currency and its potential role in Kingdom Finance

Crypto currency is a specific form of digital currency. It has interesting attributes, such as block-chain technology, a decentralized and distributed ledger, its “mining” system of replicating the ledger. It is also part of what is newly being termed as DeFi, or “Decentralized Finance” (as opposed to traditional banking centralized systems which are by design for data integrity – think about keeping accurate, real-time bank balances).

If you want to take a deeper dive on some of this stuff, you can find a recent article in Forbes here:

Forbes Crypto Trends Article August 31, 2020

These Goldman Sachs research slides on Crypto are good background:

Here is a recent Crypto / DeFi (Decentralized Finance) investment banking “FinTech” conference (thanks to Joel Frazier for referring):

DeFi banking conference YouTube playlist 14 videos

Some interesting sub-subjects within that playlist:

Bitcoin first mass “Crypto”

Bitcoin annotated price chart, Goldman Sachs

Pros of Crypto

  • Outside of the banking regulation regime and Federal Reserve
  • Hard to cheat due to the transparency of the distributed ledger
  • Some early adoption being accepting as currency and alternative to settlement / payment in the central bank currencies and systems
  • Technology allows for trusted exchange of value online (digitally)
  • Anonymous

Cons of Crypto

  • Bitcoin and other early adopters have history of criminal activity driving usage and price. Drugs. Prostitution / Human Trafficking. Porn.
  • Fiat currency – nothing of substance or value back cryptos
  • Bubble currency – crypto has a large draw to many speculators because of a “gold rush” mentality. It is just going to go higher, so by low and sell high! This creates price instability and is a actually a big negative as a currency people can depend on, say to fight inflation and product price instability
  • Adoption hurdles for real world use – most transactions still not Crypto enabled

Block Chain compared with Crypto

  • What is block-chain technology and why should I care?
  • Crypto uses block-chain technology, but Crypto not its only applicability
  • Block chain is more the core technology behind Crypto – i.e., distributed data and transparency and availability of public record
  • Lessons learned from Bitcoin and Ethereum

Regulation and Federal Reserve

The Federal Reserve is studying crypto and digital currency for central bank use, here is their recent talk on the subject, including their collaboration in the Boston Fed and MIT (thanks to Merrick Fin for discussion idea):

August 13, 2020 Fed Speech

  • How might the Fed use digital currency in days ahead?
  • What does the regulators and the Federal Reserve think of Crypto?
  • How might the Fed adopt a digital currency pf their own in the future?
  • How could a cashless society benefit, hinder or even control US citizens? God’s people?
  • What are the alternatives?

Kingdom Applicability of Digital Currency, DeFi, Block-chain, and/or Crypto:

  • Technologies could be utilized to create an “off-the-grid” alternative away from dependence on the Federal Reserve banking system
  • Resources could not be reclaimed by regulators through a “bail-in”
  • Could be utilized to help create alternative currency that was not tied solely to USD, or to the USD at all
  • Could be combined with local storehouses concept to create local resource pools that back a digital currency
  • Such asset-backing will stabilize the value of any alternative currency
  • A “New Breed” of Kingdom culture, education and discipleship in the area of commerce / finance would need be part
  • Kingdom elders in a region can provide governance aspect, even judiciary aspect
  • Distributed / decentralized aspect fits to the broader Kingdom networks across geographies, affinity groups
  • Analogy of Christians going on pilgrimage to the Holy Land during the crusades and how they could put their money “on deposit” with the Knights Templar who were a Catholic military order who established the first modern era banking concepts across geographies

Related Chuck Pierce Dream Excerpt

I realized that I needed to update my wife, Pam, on my location and what I was doing. I went to use my cell phone to call her but knew it was not the proper way to communicate. It’s not that I couldn’t use my cell phone—I just knew that by using it, I would thwart the business that we had in the port. In other words, the line was not secure.

By this time, I was in a lounge at the port. I noticed a land-line. I unplugged the phone and the line from the wall and brought it into a glass business center setting. I tried to use the landline but couldn’t get through and realized I needed a certain code to access an outside line. So I couldn’t use the landline to connect with my wife. I knew I could figure out the code but also realized that was not the right mode of communication in this case.

The barge captain came into the lounge and asked if I was trying to use the phone. I said yes. He said, “Using the landline will cost you an exorbitant rate, and you need a code. Let me bring you another device for communication.” (I had the impression that someone would trace a landline call to me because of how large the bill would be.)

The captain returned with a new hidden device. This was an odd pay phone looking thing about the size of a watch box. I realized that to activate the phone and make a successful connection, a portion of the device had to catch a coin from our current US dollar economy. Once the device was activated, there was a money clip—like wallet/phone that I could use to make my call. This portion of the device, however, required some sort of new currency to activate and operate the device in order to have successful communication.

This currency was like crypto-currency, but it was something else—and I knew I didn’t have the proper currency to operate the device and make my connection. Only this new currency could operate the device, and some way or another the currency had a chip in it that would cause the device to work.

Chuck Pierce May 6th, 2020 dream excerpt from “Passover Prophecies”

Chuck’s interpretive excerpts

  • Somehow gold is key in the new currency
  • Israel is a key
  • Israel can help us realign our communication and commerce
  • Now we must realign with Israel for trade. When Israel was maturing as a modern nation, many other nations resisted trading and working with Israel. It had to learn creatively how to grow, produce, and use its own food and to develop many other innovative products, devices, and systems. This will be similar for our communication in the future. Israel will help develop ways for us to communicate so our trade system will flourish.

Possible Interpretative Keys

  • Phone represents communication
  • Phone can also represent prayer or prayer networks
  • Landline – old tech banking (Fed Reserve USD)
  • Exorbitant rate -> hyperinflation of old system?
  • Currency represents means of exchange
  • Currency also could represent God’s means of exchange through favor / access through the phone device
  • Pam, Chuck’s wife, could represent the Church and prayer networks
  • Barge captain liken to Jesus
  • There seems to be need for new ideas, wisdom / shrewdness in all of this
  • Jesus has the keys / blueprint for “the device”
  • Money clip / new phone device could be related to Fintech style “App” on a phone (mobile device)
  • Like crypto, but yet not crypto could be a type of digital currency that is non-USD based with the tech of crypto (block chain), but not BitCoin or Ether or look-alike fiat speculative currency
  • Chip in it – technology based – could include embedded chips like credit cards now have to help securely identify
  • Somehow gold is key in the new currency – instead of a digital currency based on USD, it could be based on gold and/or basket of value that includes gold (silver, copper, platinum, palladium, other currencies, grain, water, etc.)
  • Catch a coin from our current US dollar economy – built inside the US governance, law and economy and includes ability to transfer USD into new currency
  • New Hidden Device – hidden from view of enemy, new in that it is newfangled tech and idea
  • Israel is a key – integrated with Israel economy / trade / currency / communication somehow – which has been supernaturally blessed by God since 1948 in many ways

Implementation Example

Mission City, San Antonio with Jonathan Serenil

Website: https://cityonamission.com

Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/missioncitysanantonio

  • 1999 – Initial vision of building / ministry – Superbowl Sunday
  • 2012 – Beginning of “Revelation Lounge”
  • 2015 – God encounter: “Do you want to break a cycle?”
  • 2017 – Sent to Massachusetts, followed by Ozarks
  • 2020 – Establishing of “Mission City”

Mission City is an apostolic ministry center. We believe this is best explained in the four pillars of our ministry:

ENCOURAGE

We want to encourage believers/Christian’s and non-believers/non-Christians with hope. And the only hope we have is in Jesus Christ. We believe that our words AND deeds will bring hope to others as we walk out our faith in God. 

EQUIP

Many times when people are encouraged they begin to ask questions and desire to follow what brought them encouragement. When that opportunity arises we believe the next step is to teach/disciple and equip them through the Word of God.

EMPOWER

After being encouraged and equipped we have found that people begin to identify gifting and talents within themselves. It is then necessary for them to be filled and empowered by the Holy Spirit to carry out their calling.

EMPLOY

This is two-fold. Once they are encouraged, equipped and empowered we find that many times the Holy Spirit apostolically reveals purpose and destiny and sends people out to replicate a similar model for others in whatever place they were sent to. Secondly, through many of the gifting, talents, skills, trades etc. in the people themselves, Kingdom businesses and services opportunities are made available. Through these opportunities we are able to teach others a skill and/or a trade and simply give them the ability to get out of a negative life cycle. Also, we are able to use these businesses and services to minister the hope and love of Jesus Christ to our local community whether they believe in Him or not. Many times we are able to deliver these goods and services at a reduced cost or even for free. This model may sound familiar to some. For us, we see something similar to this throughout the book of Acts. The church and people are encouraged as God is adding to the church daily those that were being saved (Acts 2:40-41, 47). The new followers were being taught and discipled (Acts 2:42, 4:2:). They were empowered by the filling of the Holy Spirit (Acts 8:15-17, 9:17). And for some they were appointed to be sent out to do what they witnessed (Acts 8:14, 8:26, 10:19-20, 13:2-4).

Excerpt from our website regarding the importance of the Tabernacle of David/House of Prayer/Prayer Room…

While there is much to explain on the subject of operations, of even higher importance is to outline the cornerstone of the Apostolic Ministry Center: the prayer room.  There are many facets, and even understanding that has yet to be given regarding what an apostolic ministry center is. Because of this, there are many perspectives and even expectations for a vision of this magnitude. It is easy to be distracted by these and lose sight of our first love, which is ministry unto the Father. The greatest commandment is to love the Lord our God. We believe that before we can ever reach our city (or even our own homes for that matter) we must first reach out to God. This is why we know that in the center of this effort resides a home for the tabernacle of David, a continuously running house of prayer.  Having a dedicated enclosed space for prayer and worship unto the Father 24/7 in the midst of this place is key. This is not only desired but we can’t emphasize enough how much this is direly NEEDED. This is the fuel and the fire for all that will transpire from this place, especially missions.”

Mission City website

Examples of God’s Supernatural Provision of Resources and People:

  • Revelation Lounge supernatural $90k provision for 3-year lease and supernatural end of lease
  • Being obedient in heading to Concord and Lexington, Boston, Plymouth, Cape Cod MA having sold everything
  • Meeting Mike Bickle in the Ozarks, the HOP revelation, and 4 days later being invited to IHOP annual staff retreat as Mike’s guest
  • Supernatural provision of housing and vehicle for Jonathan’s family
  • New lease for Mission City and how God brought in $60k of T-Shirt orders in supernaturally to cover things

Examples of Apostolic Ministry Center Revelation in the Lord’s Sending Out:

  • Jonathan Friz 2017 and Northfield ARK model in MA- 2011 Vision Gayle Perry from 2019 meeting in CO
  • Intercession City FL diagram – 2019 meeting in FL

Discussion: Timing of economic troubles and other biblical prophecy

… from Issachar, men who understood the times and knew what Israel should do

1 Chronicles 12:32

We know in part, we see [prophetically] in part…

1 Corinthians 13:9

Timing is important. We plan our days around it. We go to work at a certain time. The kids go to school at a certain time. In Ecclesiastes 3, we are told there is a time and season for everything. So as believers, timing and planning are important, yet we live by faith, not by site (2 Cor 5:7). Of course the future is not known, but the Word of God can guide us.

Teaching point: In the prophetic, timing is often the hardest part to get right in understanding or interpreting a prophetic word from the Bible or otherwise. In the prophetic, we are taught that when timing is put on a prophetic word, that prophecy will be known to be true or false by its declared timing (read Jeremiah 28:10-17).

Economic Timing

  • When will the USD collapse?
  • When will the Federal Reserve banking system fail?
  • When will the markets crash?

Is the US financial economic system of Fed Reserve capitalism the Harlot Babylon of Revelation 18?

Will China replace America as the lead economic power and is it the final Babylonian system discussed in Revelation 18?

What is the prophetic parallel of Egypt and Israel is to USA and the Church?

What is the meaning of 400 years of slavery of the Church … 1620 – 2020?

Premise: USA and its financial system have been under multi-wave financial judgment liken to Egypt’s seven-fold judgment of Ezekiel 29-32, which was a 40 year prophecy.

Assumption: We are in perhaps the 3rd wave of this judgment with CV19 – 9/11 and the 2008 financial crisis being the first two waves. If we are in a seven wave type judgment, we could be talking another 4 waves over 20 years before the fullness of the humbling transpires. Potential dateline 2000-2040.

Related: The Pilgrims landed in 1620. Signed the Mayflower Compact 11-11-1620. This year is the 400th year celebration. If our economic system is liken to Egypt and its system of slavery, are we in the same window of time God dealing with ending slavery of the Israelites (economic slavery of the church)?

Data Point: Chuck Pierce in 2012 on 40 year prophecy of the rise of China (1986-2026):
“By 2026, the Chinese could actually rule the world and Russia would begin to submit to their leading.”

Question: Is the judgment currently on the USA right now, the same judgment of the symbolic economic Harlot Babylon of Revelation 18? If so, could China represent part of the beast that takes down the Harlot (Rev 17:16)? If not, China’s global economic system may take over as the final form of economic Harlot that is judged as per Revelation 18, with the USA having been humbled prior to this.

Timing of the Lord’s Return and the restoration of Israel

So how does all of this fit into the timing of the Lord’s return – which we know is certain – yet many have falsely prophesied that it would have already happened? Where does the rapture fit into everything? So many questions !?!

  • When will the Lord return?
  • Are we in the midnight hour? (parable of the 10 virgins Matt 25)
  • When will the man of perdition be revealed (2 Thes 2:3)?
  • When will the economic system of the mark of the beast Rev 13:18 come to pass?
  • Who are the two witnesses of Rev 11? And when will they be in play?
  • Is Macron the anti-Christ and Pope Francis the false prophet?
  • When will 2/3 of Israel die (Zech 13:8)?
  • Is the War of God and Magog (Ez 38-39) the same as the battle of Armeggedon (Rev 19)? When will they occur?
  • Will the church be raptured before Christ’s return, and if so, what about the Jewish remnant and the one new man?
  • What does the man-child prophecy of Rev 12 mean? The timing?

Teaching point: Let us remain childlike in our faith, look to the Lord for wisdom and remain flexible, teachable and humble as clay under the potter’s hands. Let us “be ready in season and of season” 2 Tim 4:2. Let us build now toward the future of forever, as “the bride without spot or wrinkle”. Noah built the ark over the course of 120 years. He did not know when the flood would come, but he was ready. He was not in sin. But let not our readiness be confused with presumption, either cutting corners because we are premature, burying our talents thinking time is short instead of planting and reaping in the Kingdom (a form of the wicked servant Matt 25:25), or in sin because we think He is forever delaying His return (Matt 24:45-51) and God’s grace allows such presumptive sin.

Key Scriptures regarding the Lord’s timing

Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many anti-Christs have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

1 John 2:18

When you see all these things, know that it is near – at the doors. This generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place

Matthew 24:33-34

But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Matthew 24:36-44

But concerning the times and the seasons, you have no need that I should write to you. For you yourselves know perfectly the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape… let us be awake and sober… putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him. Therefore encourage one another and build each other up…

1 Thessalonians 5:1-11

Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or the seasons the Father has set by his own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.

Acts 1:6-8

When it is evening you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red’; and in the morning, ‘It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times.”

Matthew 16:2-4

Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Bob Jones on Timing

What is the Lord doing? I brought a 100 year prophesy for a long time, let’s look at it. The 1950’s reveal the power of God. William Branham, Oral Roberts, AA Allen. The 1960’s reveal the Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit invaded the denominations. The 1970’s reveal the great teachers of God and they began to raise up. The 1980’s reveal the prophets of God. The 1990’s reveal the government of God. The 2000 would reveal the glory of God. You haven’t seen anything. Wait till you see the next two years! The 2010 would reveal the faith of God. It’s not have the faith “in” God, it is to have the faith “of” God. And it’s going to be those that have that earring in and hear what God is saying. And what you’ll do, you’ll proclaim it. And you’ll bring it into being. The 2020’s reveal the rest of God. To where you can rest from your labors and God will work His work through you in your rest and in your peace. The 2030’s will reveal the family of God. 2040’s will reveal the kingdom of God. 2050’s will reveal the sons and daughters of God. I only saw til 2060 and the church was still here and it wasn’t defeated by any means. It had really grown and looked a lot like Christ. So if you’ve got short range plans, make long range plans

Bob Jones 5/13/2008 on GodTV

Version of it here from 2009: https://youtu.be/ZUrfpHr0-LM

Bob Jones Vision of the End-times Church: https://youtu.be/xMmKqX9YUg4

Notes from video:

  • Get ready for the glorious end-time church. “And I don’t know how long it will be…”
  • Bob saw 50 years, 100 years from now people are still getting saved.
  • Rev 2:1-7 Church in Ephesus – if you have lost your first love and love for people… Quit it. Get on your face. Start to love God and people again.
  • “Sometimes you can become so busy working for Him. You get so ambitious building yourself a church, not any of you are going to build a church. God is going to build His church”
  • “Spend more time making love to the Lord than I would working for Him”
  • Intimacy with the Lord is the key
  • “If the Holy Spirit gave you understanding of the stock market, you would own the stock market in 5 days”

Bob Jones: 1 Billion souls prophecy and its timing: https://youtu.be/EtWKDOa2Y7w

Mike Bickle on Timing

Knowing the generation, but not the day or the hour

The reason I say that is because there’s a bit of confusion in the Body of Christ, because people mix up the fact that we can’t know the day and the hour. They use that to say that we shouldn’t know the season or the generation. Now you can’t know it unless you’re living in it. So it’s a bit of a tension, because how do you know if you’re living in it? But Jesus says if you’re living in it you need to know that. So He by design causes us to come into agreement with the Word and the Spirit so that we know by faith as we see the evidence in the Word and as it’s manifest in society by the working of the Spirit.

Mike Bickle from Knowing The Times notes

Mike Bickle “Knowing The Times” PDF notes: https://mikebickle.org/series/Knowing-the-Signs-of-the-Times

Outstanding End-Times Resources from Mike Bickle: https://mikebickle.org/category/End-Times-%26-Eternity

Discussion: Implementing an “Ark”

How to build an … ARK? An interview with Chris Lucey and Jonathan Friz…

They go by various names: The ARK Collaborative; Apostolic HUBs; Training; Equipping and Sending Centers; Holy Spirit Hot-spots; Cities of Refuge. Whatever we want to call them, they are part of the new wineskin of what God is doing on the earth as part of advancing the Kingdom and networking the Church. The city of Antioch served as a type of ARK back in the book of Acts:

While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.

Acts 13:2

We interview Chris Lucey, Chief Administrative Officer, JAMA Global (with Jonathan Friz also as guest) on how to build an ARK. Jonathan, Chris and I have been collaborating on the ARK concept for sometime now. Here was a proposed description from 2016 regarding the Northfield D.L. Moody Campus in Western MA…

4-in-1 ARK Concept

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Functionally, what do we understand so far? We are speaking with respect to the proposed “uses” of the campus. There seems to be several common threads to all the ideas (whether the Pioneer Team, NE Alliance, the ARK, as well as the legacy of what historically has happened on the D.L. Moody Campus). They are:

  • Prayer (e.g., Moody Chapel, Mt. Zion HOP, intercession, Tabernacle of David 24/7 worship and prayer)
  • Missions (e.g., Student Volunteer Movement, US Center for World Missions, Inherit The Nations)
  • Education (e.g., Moody girls and boys school, Training and Equipping for the NE Church, CS Lewis University)
  • Church Unity (e.g., summer campground gatherings, NE united nights of worship, 10 Days events)
  • Local Community (e.g., Trinity church Northfield, farming, local commerce, housing)

Shortly thereafter in 2017/8, Chris relocated to East Texas having agreed to be brought on as CAO for JAMA Global. This came out of advising Dr. Kim and the JAMA board in purchasing the old Keith Green’s “Teen Mania” Campus, now headquarters to J.A.M.A. Global (Jesus Awakening Movement for America) in order to form an “Ark” style collaborative. Here is an excerpt from Chris:

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JAMA is building a “collaborative kingdom community”. A mix of program offerings challenge young adults to top-level senior executives. JAMA is raising up the next generation of global servant-leaders, business innovators, missionally minded entrepreneurs and thought leaders.

It is like a Spiritual Military Base

Dr. Kim founder of JAMA Global

Notes: Our campus is 471 acres with approximately 300,000 sqft – admin, dorms, gym, auditorium, cafeteria, etc. 

Components of the JAMA “Ark”:

Lindale Kingdom College – 4 year undergrad accredited college

JAMA Global Foundation – serves as a type of impact investment fund- think tank research projects to imagine new kingdom ventures

JAMA Global Church– JAMA is structured as a church 

JAMA Global Ministries – we also offer a post-grad leadership program Global Leadership Development Institute (it has over 700 alum/ 100 from SK)

JAMA Conference Facilities – dorm style services for up to 300 guests- pool with water slides & park areas- gym for indoor sports and archery – hunting on 300 acres back of the campus

The Furnace – a podcast to discuss the integration of faith and entrepreneurship as a founder

Incubator (some on campus, some virtual)- working with first time founders to co-create what they’ve been entrusted/ assigned to do

Mission Grove Homes – A pilot senior missional-living community- Beta is 50 units ( duplex/triplex ) in 2020- Full scale up to 350 homes (college, etc.)- missiongrove.org

Mission Grove – Farms & Gardens – 5 acre organic farm w/ 3,000sqft greenhouse (supports churches & food banks) and feeds our campus – approximately 25 acres of planned farms with chickens for laying and meat processed on site ( this is in design stage )

Next stage discussions – creating a “complimentary currency” for campus and community use in US & S Korea- EB5 program possible interest for real estate development ventures – QOZ & Qualified Opportunity Fund- Seeking business that create revenue [when non-profit tax deductions for away this next decade ( over $300B+ annual revenue industrywide that is not being taxed today – it could change].

more at: https://www.jamaglobal.com/

the following is an excerpt from Chuck Pierce’s new book, The Passover Prophecies. It is a key dream Chuck had May 6th, 2020 to help understand future global trade, communication, currency and economy.

CHINA IS MOVING IN NEW WAYS TO CONTROL TRADE

Like Egypt at the first Passover, manpower and domination of resources are key to recognize. This will be a pattern for the decade ahead—the ‘pey’ decade. I believe at Passover 2020 our eyes have been opened. World trade power is in a chess match. Trade is interesting. Lucifer was cast from heaven because of his iniquity of trading. In other words, Lucifer was looking for ways to gain power through negotiation and deal making. He is still doing that today. Fellow watchmen, if we don’t understand the warfare over trade systems and how to enter the kingdom of God, we will never see the transference of wealth for the latter-day harvest. Therefore, to understand Satan’s schemes, we must watch trading patterns carefully. China has ways to pull strings and gain inroads to become the major economic influencer in the world!

Because we are in an economic war, we will see great conflict between China and America in days ahead. There will be much discussion over who or what truly is the root cause behind this Coronavirus.

But the message of this book—and the more critical question of our time—is not in regard to the plague—like invasion of this pandemic. Rather, it is about God realigning power structures both in the earth and in the spirit.

PORTS, CHINA, AND THE ELECTION

On May 6, 2020, as this book was about to go to press, I had a dream that I felt compelled to share.

In the dream I was steering a shipping barge and being used to direct it to its new position in a port. I did a satisfactory job with this first barge that I was helping to dock. (I actually think this first ship represented the ways God led our team to facilitate intercessory prayer efforts within our spheres during President Trump’s first term in office.)

However, the timing of the dream then changed. I was now required to dock a second barge in a different port, but this docking job was much trickier and difficult to accomplish. I immediately knew a way to get this barge into port was the use of mirrors. When I docked the first barge, I had misinterpreted several reflections that had caused me problems. On the mirrors that I was using now, there were key reflections of other nations that were trading in the port. I had to maneuver around and past them to get the boat into position. Once I interpreted what other nations were trading in this new port, I used those dynamics to get the barge positioned.

I had to get the barge though a narrow entryway that was half the size of the barge, I could do this only if I understood how to use the mirrors that were available to me and that I could attach to the barge.

When using mirrors, you see a reversed image, so if you don’t interpret the image correctly, your movements are impeded. In my dream there was no way to maneuver the barge successfully through the port to its docking position without the use of mirrors.

I realized that I needed to update my wife, Pam, on my location and what I was doing. I went to use my cell phone to call her but knew it was not the proper way to communicate. It’s not that I couldn’t use my cell phone—I just knew that by using it, I would thwart the business that we had in the port. In other words, the line was not secure.

By this time, I was in a lounge at the port. I noticed a land-line. I unplugged the phone and the line from the wall and brought it into a glass business center setting. I tried to use the landline but couldn’t get through and realized I needed a certain code to access an outside line. So I couldn’t use the landline to connect with my wife. I knew I could figure out the code but also realized that was not the right mode of communication in this case.

The barge captain came into the lounge and asked if I was trying to use the phone. I said yes. He said, “Using the landline will cost you an exorbitant rate, and you need a code. Let me bring you another device for communication.” (I had the impression that someone would trace a landline call to me because of how large the bill would be.)

The captain returned with a new hidden device. This was an odd pay phone looking thing about the size of a watch box. I realized that to activate the phone and make a successful connection, a portion of the device had to catch a coin from our current US dollar economy. Once the device was activated, there was a money clip—like wallet/phone that I could use to make my call. This portion of the device, however, required some sort of new currency to activate and operate the device in order to have successful communication.

This currency was like crypto-currency, but it was something else—and I knew I didn’t have the proper currency to operate the device and make my connection. Only this new currency could operate the device, and some way or another the currency had a chip in it that would cause the device to work.

And then the dream ended.

CHUCK’S INTERPRETATION

Here are some of the things I see in the dream:

  • Know that our trade systems will be severely tested! Our trade systems need to get established in current and new ports in the days ahead in new ways. This season of trade ahead will be much more difficult than the last season.
  • Realign with key nations. In the dream I saw the reflection of many nations in the mirrors (Spain, Italy, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Great Britain, and Germany, to name a few). It was those reflections that I was using to maneuver the second barge into the port. These nations had found their way into the port.
  • We will contend with China. In my dream I knew China was controlling the overall operations of the port. As I interpret it, in the days ahead there will be great contention with China over who will dominate world trade.
  • Our communication system must change as quickly as possible. One of China’s war tactics (in terms of trade, economics, and world power) will be to lock us out of certain trade ports. The only way we will be able to become established is to maneuver through other nations and then communicate using a different type of communication system.
  • Somehow gold is key in the new currency.
  • The president could win a second term. In my dream I believe the second port represents the president’s second term in office. As I write this, I haven’t heard clearly yet from the Holy Spirit whether the president will be reelected and am seeking the Lord daily. But this dream was the first inkling in the spirit that I’ve had about a possible second term. As well, and as we touched on earlier, the ways in which we operated in the last season as a church and nation will not work in the new season. We must let go of the old. In that sense the same is true for the president. For the president to be successful in his second term, he must understand things that were not interpreted correctly in the last season. I know that if Trump doesn’t remain in office, China will take over as the dominant world power in terms of trade and economics.
  • Israel is a key. On May 6, Israel’s Supreme Court ruled that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu could form a new government, ending a seventeen—month political stalemate and preventing the country from plunging into a fourth consecutive election in just over a year. Now we must realign with Israel for trade. When Israel was maturing as a modern nation, many other nations resisted trading and working with Israel. It had to learn creatively how to grow, produce, and use its own food and to develop many other innovative products, devices, and systems. This will be similar for our communication in the future. Israel will help develop ways for us to communicate so our trade system will flourish.

DANIEL IN BABYLON ANALOGY

Think of Daniel in exile in Babylon. He moved among—and excelled in—the powerful pagan society that was Babylonia. Daniel worshiped the God of his forefathers and went above the understanding of the Babylonian magicians—much in the same way that Moses was a channel through which God outwitted the sorcerers of Pharaoh. In the Book of Daniel, after Nebuchadnezzar’s magicians, astrologers, and sorcerers failed to interpret the king’s dream, Daniel was summoned. (See Daniel 2.)

Daniel asked the king to give him time to interpret the dream. Daniel and his companions then sought “mercies from the God of heaven concerning this secret [i.e., the dream], so that Daniel and his companions might not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon. Then the secret was revealed to Daniel in a night vision. So Daniel blessed the God of heaven” (Daniel 2:16—19, NKJV).

As we move forward, we must learn from Daniel. As we wait, watch, and follow the Lord’s leading on how and when to take action, it is vital that we

  • take time to accurately hear from the Lord, just as Daniel did when he asked Nebuchadnezzar for time to seek God (V. 16);
  • find like-minded believers who will press in to God as we watch and pray with them in this new season  (vv. 17-18);
  • have faith that God will meet us in our sphere of assignment and authority and that the secret will be revealed to us as the Lord chooses. This might happen through prayer, the Word, other believers, or, as in Daniel’s case, a prophetic dream or other prophetic revelation (v. 19); and, most importantly,
  • bless the God of heaven for the new revelation and season and for His goodness (v. 19).

We must be like Daniel in the cultural and spiritual Babylon in which we live. He gained such favor with the pagan king that he was able to save the lives of the magicians. (See Daniel 2:24-25.) He didn’t use the magicians’ type of access to revelation; he went above it (in the earthly realm) and came back down into it (in the earth realm). That is exactly what we need to do.

Chuck Pierce
The Passover Prophecies, 2020
Excerpt from the book pp.109-114

https://gloryofzion.org/

Discussion: Implementing Community-Based Models

Wednesday 8am EST we will host a round-table discussion via Zoom (email info@newbreed.co if you’d like to join) on the “how to’s” and testimonies of implementing local economy and banking in the context of the citywide/regional church/ministry unity (some use the terminology “ecclesia”). Including:

  • The role of regional elders
  • The role of discipleship in Christ, but also in the new way of business
  • Role of house of worship and prayer (Jesus at the center)
  • Local traditional banking credit union/cooperative bank (FDIC)
  • Local alternative banking (new payment/investment platforms)
  • Local currency (BerkShares in Western MA)
  • Local barter / sales / exchanges (criag’s list, FB marketplace)
  • Incubators / Start-up support (venture capital ideas)
  • Missional support local and remote
  • Community benevolence funds (helping the poor, widow, orphans)
  • Community “lending” as ways of helping people
  • Housing
  • Storehouses of resources
  • Supporting local businesses
  • Networking Christian businesses together (exchanges)
  • Role of “Apostolic HUBs” (“Righteousness Centers” or “ARKs” or “Holy Spirit Hotspots”)
  • Training and Equipping of the saints Eph 4

Looking forward to sharing testimony, exploring working models and future models.

We Need Your Feedback!

Since April, we have been gathering across the country on these Zoom calls to discuss the “New Breed of Business” revelation, repentance and reformation for the Body of Christ in the areas of economy, business, banking, investing and finance, and how that can impact our communities for good and win people to Christ.

We have been getting a lot of positive feedback and encouragement!

Two distinct purposes seem to have emerged:

  1. Education and Repentance
    Understanding what the socio-economic issues are today that are problematic in God’s sight (the theology behind the need of repentance) and the biblical solutions we have largely ignored or forgotten about. Simple things like keeping the Sabbath holy, not profiting nor charging interest on the poor, forgiving debts and resting the land (sabbatical). Since these matters are such a “blind spot” in the Church today, there is huge ground to make up in preaching and teaching this repentance and reformation message. Most Christians think our USA economy today is neutral (just infrastructure of markets and free trade) and not a problem in God’s sight. Yet, we are confused why these shakings keep shaking our economy.

For this reason, we have uploaded these discussions to the website and various podcast channels (see below). Please feel free to pass along these links to anyone who would benefit. Also, please invite anyone you think would benefit from joining the Zoom conversations.

  1. Networking Regional Implementation Teams
    Gathering together apostolic/prophetic leaders and teams across the nation who are already taking steps towards implementing these economic models and ideas. But we need shared wisdom and guidance to make good decisions in helping our communities.

One proposal on the table is that we would focus on Education, say week 1 and 3 each month and Implementation week 2 and 4. Or something similar.

In any event, write us back (info@newbreed.co) and let us know what you have liked and what you have disliked. And any suggestions you may have.

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Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/5KqPSjxutjRMMmSBTxNOWn
or search “New Breed of Business”

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Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-breed-of-business/id1524064444
or search “New Breed of Business”

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YouTube Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuGIJhQ0YehWvPXSJVWj4j_hTW-dVgfRt
or search “Gregg Healey podcast”

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Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdicmVlZC5jby9mZWVkLw
or search “New Breed of Business”

Discussion:

Have we codified systemic greed into our corporate governance and business practices? And if we have, how can we repent of this sin as a nation without upending our economy? Even if we could change our ways, are we willing? What if the church could start a movement back toward a biblical economy outside of the banking system, Federal Reserve and financial markets?

Thesis:

We have codified greed into our publicly traded company’s business practices and corporate governance structures in the name of “profitability” and “shareholder’s interests”. Further, we have likewise codified much of the same greed in any private enterprise, which has taken in investor’s capital (in equity or debt form) that requires conforming to the same return characteristics on that capital, especially if the goal is to “go public” or be sold for gain. This is the nature of modern “private equity” and “venture capital” ideals and objectives.

The bible says: “Do not charge interest, nor profit from the poor. I am the Lord.” Lev 25; Prvb 28. Do our companies heed this command? Subprime lending cos? Cable TV cos? Cell phone cos?

Proposal:

A few weeks back in the Separation or Integration of Church and Business discussion, we proffered a new idea (see Thesis II), which we now turn into a proposal of a movement:

The most impactful engine for socio-economic improvement, social justice, serving the poor, building up neighborhoods, giving people access to good jobs and education is business itself. It’s not the government. It’s not even churches. We would argue, business done well under God literally creates healthy economy, creates jobs, creates a type of family, demonstrates the gospel with deeds not just words, creates opportunity, and glorifies God. As Christians come together and serve the community together through our businesses, joined together in unity, loving our neighbor as ourselves, I believe there is no greater force of good that can be unleashed on a nation, region, state or city. Lastly, I believe the only viable platform to achieve this properly are privately owned companies (not publicly traded ones), funded by capital that is not attached to the traditional financial markets, banking, venture or private equity systems and influences. All such capital all comes with “strings attached” and a return on capital expectation as the top priority, really the only priority if we are honest (and therefore becomes the object of worship).

In this way we can be a city shining on a hill – Matt 5:15