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the following is an excerpt from Chuck Pierce’s new book, The Passover Prophecies. It is a key dream Chuck had May 6th, 2020 to help understand future global trade, communication, currency and economy.


Like Egypt at the first Passover, manpower and domination of resources are key to recognize. This will be a pattern for the decade ahead—the ‘pey’ decade. I believe at Passover 2020 our eyes have been opened. World trade power is in a chess match. Trade is interesting. Lucifer was cast from heaven because of his iniquity of trading. In other words, Lucifer was looking for ways to gain power through negotiation and deal making. He is still doing that today. Fellow watchmen, if we don’t understand the warfare over trade systems and how to enter the kingdom of God, we will never see the transference of wealth for the latter-day harvest. Therefore, to understand Satan’s schemes, we must watch trading patterns carefully. China has ways to pull strings and gain inroads to become the major economic influencer in the world!

Because we are in an economic war, we will see great conflict between China and America in days ahead. There will be much discussion over who or what truly is the root cause behind this Coronavirus.

But the message of this book—and the more critical question of our time—is not in regard to the plague—like invasion of this pandemic. Rather, it is about God realigning power structures both in the earth and in the spirit.


On May 6, 2020, as this book was about to go to press, I had a dream that I felt compelled to share.

In the dream I was steering a shipping barge and being used to direct it to its new position in a port. I did a satisfactory job with this first barge that I was helping to dock. (I actually think this first ship represented the ways God led our team to facilitate intercessory prayer efforts within our spheres during President Trump’s first term in office.)

However, the timing of the dream then changed. I was now required to dock a second barge in a different port, but this docking job was much trickier and difficult to accomplish. I immediately knew a way to get this barge into port was the use of mirrors. When I docked the first barge, I had misinterpreted several reflections that had caused me problems. On the mirrors that I was using now, there were key reflections of other nations that were trading in the port. I had to maneuver around and past them to get the boat into position. Once I interpreted what other nations were trading in this new port, I used those dynamics to get the barge positioned.

I had to get the barge though a narrow entryway that was half the size of the barge, I could do this only if I understood how to use the mirrors that were available to me and that I could attach to the barge.

When using mirrors, you see a reversed image, so if you don’t interpret the image correctly, your movements are impeded. In my dream there was no way to maneuver the barge successfully through the port to its docking position without the use of mirrors.

I realized that I needed to update my wife, Pam, on my location and what I was doing. I went to use my cell phone to call her but knew it was not the proper way to communicate. It’s not that I couldn’t use my cell phone—I just knew that by using it, I would thwart the business that we had in the port. In other words, the line was not secure.

By this time, I was in a lounge at the port. I noticed a land-line. I unplugged the phone and the line from the wall and brought it into a glass business center setting. I tried to use the landline but couldn’t get through and realized I needed a certain code to access an outside line. So I couldn’t use the landline to connect with my wife. I knew I could figure out the code but also realized that was not the right mode of communication in this case.

The barge captain came into the lounge and asked if I was trying to use the phone. I said yes. He said, “Using the landline will cost you an exorbitant rate, and you need a code. Let me bring you another device for communication.” (I had the impression that someone would trace a landline call to me because of how large the bill would be.)

The captain returned with a new hidden device. This was an odd pay phone looking thing about the size of a watch box. I realized that to activate the phone and make a successful connection, a portion of the device had to catch a coin from our current US dollar economy. Once the device was activated, there was a money clip—like wallet/phone that I could use to make my call. This portion of the device, however, required some sort of new currency to activate and operate the device in order to have successful communication.

This currency was like crypto-currency, but it was something else—and I knew I didn’t have the proper currency to operate the device and make my connection. Only this new currency could operate the device, and some way or another the currency had a chip in it that would cause the device to work.

And then the dream ended.


Here are some of the things I see in the dream:

  • Know that our trade systems will be severely tested! Our trade systems need to get established in current and new ports in the days ahead in new ways. This season of trade ahead will be much more difficult than the last season.
  • Realign with key nations. In the dream I saw the reflection of many nations in the mirrors (Spain, Italy, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Great Britain, and Germany, to name a few). It was those reflections that I was using to maneuver the second barge into the port. These nations had found their way into the port.
  • We will contend with China. In my dream I knew China was controlling the overall operations of the port. As I interpret it, in the days ahead there will be great contention with China over who will dominate world trade.
  • Our communication system must change as quickly as possible. One of China’s war tactics (in terms of trade, economics, and world power) will be to lock us out of certain trade ports. The only way we will be able to become established is to maneuver through other nations and then communicate using a different type of communication system.
  • Somehow gold is key in the new currency.
  • The president could win a second term. In my dream I believe the second port represents the president’s second term in office. As I write this, I haven’t heard clearly yet from the Holy Spirit whether the president will be reelected and am seeking the Lord daily. But this dream was the first inkling in the spirit that I’ve had about a possible second term. As well, and as we touched on earlier, the ways in which we operated in the last season as a church and nation will not work in the new season. We must let go of the old. In that sense the same is true for the president. For the president to be successful in his second term, he must understand things that were not interpreted correctly in the last season. I know that if Trump doesn’t remain in office, China will take over as the dominant world power in terms of trade and economics.
  • Israel is a key. On May 6, Israel’s Supreme Court ruled that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu could form a new government, ending a seventeen—month political stalemate and preventing the country from plunging into a fourth consecutive election in just over a year. Now we must realign with Israel for trade. When Israel was maturing as a modern nation, many other nations resisted trading and working with Israel. It had to learn creatively how to grow, produce, and use its own food and to develop many other innovative products, devices, and systems. This will be similar for our communication in the future. Israel will help develop ways for us to communicate so our trade system will flourish.


Think of Daniel in exile in Babylon. He moved among—and excelled in—the powerful pagan society that was Babylonia. Daniel worshiped the God of his forefathers and went above the understanding of the Babylonian magicians—much in the same way that Moses was a channel through which God outwitted the sorcerers of Pharaoh. In the Book of Daniel, after Nebuchadnezzar’s magicians, astrologers, and sorcerers failed to interpret the king’s dream, Daniel was summoned. (See Daniel 2.)

Daniel asked the king to give him time to interpret the dream. Daniel and his companions then sought “mercies from the God of heaven concerning this secret [i.e., the dream], so that Daniel and his companions might not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon. Then the secret was revealed to Daniel in a night vision. So Daniel blessed the God of heaven” (Daniel 2:16—19, NKJV).

As we move forward, we must learn from Daniel. As we wait, watch, and follow the Lord’s leading on how and when to take action, it is vital that we

  • take time to accurately hear from the Lord, just as Daniel did when he asked Nebuchadnezzar for time to seek God (V. 16);
  • find like-minded believers who will press in to God as we watch and pray with them in this new season  (vv. 17-18);
  • have faith that God will meet us in our sphere of assignment and authority and that the secret will be revealed to us as the Lord chooses. This might happen through prayer, the Word, other believers, or, as in Daniel’s case, a prophetic dream or other prophetic revelation (v. 19); and, most importantly,
  • bless the God of heaven for the new revelation and season and for His goodness (v. 19).

We must be like Daniel in the cultural and spiritual Babylon in which we live. He gained such favor with the pagan king that he was able to save the lives of the magicians. (See Daniel 2:24-25.) He didn’t use the magicians’ type of access to revelation; he went above it (in the earthly realm) and came back down into it (in the earth realm). That is exactly what we need to do.

Chuck Pierce
The Passover Prophecies, 2020
Excerpt from the book pp.109-114

Discussion: Implementing Community-Based Models

Wednesday 8am EST we will host a round-table discussion via Zoom (email if you’d like to join) on the “how to’s” and testimonies of implementing local economy and banking in the context of the citywide/regional church/ministry unity (some use the terminology “ecclesia”). Including:

  • The role of regional elders
  • The role of discipleship in Christ, but also in the new way of business
  • Role of house of worship and prayer (Jesus at the center)
  • Local traditional banking credit union/cooperative bank (FDIC)
  • Local alternative banking (new payment/investment platforms)
  • Local currency (BerkShares in Western MA)
  • Local barter / sales / exchanges (criag’s list, FB marketplace)
  • Incubators / Start-up support (venture capital ideas)
  • Missional support local and remote
  • Community benevolence funds (helping the poor, widow, orphans)
  • Community “lending” as ways of helping people
  • Housing
  • Storehouses of resources
  • Supporting local businesses
  • Networking Christian businesses together (exchanges)
  • Role of “Apostolic HUBs” (“Righteousness Centers” or “ARKs” or “Holy Spirit Hotspots”)
  • Training and Equipping of the saints Eph 4

Looking forward to sharing testimony, exploring working models and future models.

We Need Your Feedback!

Since April, we have been gathering across the country on these Zoom calls to discuss the “New Breed of Business” revelation, repentance and reformation for the Body of Christ in the areas of economy, business, banking, investing and finance, and how that can impact our communities for good and win people to Christ.

We have been getting a lot of positive feedback and encouragement!

Two distinct purposes seem to have emerged:

  1. Education and Repentance
    Understanding what the socio-economic issues are today that are problematic in God’s sight (the theology behind the need of repentance) and the biblical solutions we have largely ignored or forgotten about. Simple things like keeping the Sabbath holy, not profiting nor charging interest on the poor, forgiving debts and resting the land (sabbatical). Since these matters are such a “blind spot” in the Church today, there is huge ground to make up in preaching and teaching this repentance and reformation message. Most Christians think our USA economy today is neutral (just infrastructure of markets and free trade) and not a problem in God’s sight. Yet, we are confused why these shakings keep shaking our economy.

For this reason, we have uploaded these discussions to the website and various podcast channels (see below). Please feel free to pass along these links to anyone who would benefit. Also, please invite anyone you think would benefit from joining the Zoom conversations.

  1. Networking Regional Implementation Teams
    Gathering together apostolic/prophetic leaders and teams across the nation who are already taking steps towards implementing these economic models and ideas. But we need shared wisdom and guidance to make good decisions in helping our communities.

One proposal on the table is that we would focus on Education, say week 1 and 3 each month and Implementation week 2 and 4. Or something similar.

In any event, write us back ( and let us know what you have liked and what you have disliked. And any suggestions you may have.


Spotify Podcast:
or search “New Breed of Business”


Apple Podcast:
or search “New Breed of Business”


YouTube Podcast:
or search “Gregg Healey podcast”


Google Podcasts:
or search “New Breed of Business”


Have we codified systemic greed into our corporate governance and business practices? And if we have, how can we repent of this sin as a nation without upending our economy? Even if we could change our ways, are we willing? What if the church could start a movement back toward a biblical economy outside of the banking system, Federal Reserve and financial markets?


We have codified greed into our publicly traded company’s business practices and corporate governance structures in the name of “profitability” and “shareholder’s interests”. Further, we have likewise codified much of the same greed in any private enterprise, which has taken in investor’s capital (in equity or debt form) that requires conforming to the same return characteristics on that capital, especially if the goal is to “go public” or be sold for gain. This is the nature of modern “private equity” and “venture capital” ideals and objectives.

The bible says: “Do not charge interest, nor profit from the poor. I am the Lord.” Lev 25; Prvb 28. Do our companies heed this command? Subprime lending cos? Cable TV cos? Cell phone cos?


A few weeks back in the Separation or Integration of Church and Business discussion, we proffered a new idea (see Thesis II), which we now turn into a proposal of a movement:

The most impactful engine for socio-economic improvement, social justice, serving the poor, building up neighborhoods, giving people access to good jobs and education is business itself. It’s not the government. It’s not even churches. We would argue, business done well under God literally creates healthy economy, creates jobs, creates a type of family, demonstrates the gospel with deeds not just words, creates opportunity, and glorifies God. As Christians come together and serve the community together through our businesses, joined together in unity, loving our neighbor as ourselves, I believe there is no greater force of good that can be unleashed on a nation, region, state or city. Lastly, I believe the only viable platform to achieve this properly are privately owned companies (not publicly traded ones), funded by capital that is not attached to the traditional financial markets, banking, venture or private equity systems and influences. All such capital all comes with “strings attached” and a return on capital expectation as the top priority, really the only priority if we are honest (and therefore becomes the object of worship).

In this way we can be a city shining on a hill – Matt 5:15

Discussion: Stories of Provision

As God shows us more and more how not to trust in money (and our own strength), but instead trust in God (and in doing so he makes a way with or without money), it is good to take stock of the miracles God has done in our lives, and share these testimonies with one another.

Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the Lord our God.

Psalm 20:7

Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’ 

Matthew 4:4

Stories of Needs being Met:

  • Housing
  • Office Space
  • Suppliers, Employees, Venders
  • Vehicles
  • Food, Clothing, Gas, Fuel, Healing, Electricity, Water, Utilities, Phone
  • Taxes

But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 

Matthew 6:33

Beyond the basics, stories of more than we could ask or think. Stories of Blessings Beyond Needs:

  • Nice things
  • gifts
  • hobbies
  • time away
  • rest
  • relaxation

Take delight in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart. 

Psalm 37:4

Discussion: Prophesied banking disruptions and inflation

Do not despise prophecies, but test everything; hold fast what is good

1 Thessalonians 5:20-21

Of Issachar, men who had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do

1 Chronicles 12:32

Recently, a video has gone viral of Pastor Dana Coverstone from Kentucky who had a series of 3 dreams. Essentially the first dream has been fulfilled in the Corona Virus and the recent civil unrest triggered by the death of George Floyd.

You can view that video here:

What caught my attention at the end of the video were two notable aspects:

  1. roofs of banks being removed and money vacuumed out
  2. that change for a dollar was no longer needed because of inflation

So, whatever we make of this dream, it reminds me of many similar earlier prophetic words given by respected prophetic voices. Here are a couple :

John Paul Jackson: funding drying up and inflation:
Shane Warren: Hurricane of worthless one dollar bills:

All of this aspect of financial difficulty fits into a bigger narrative, and that is the many times over prophesied great humbling of the USA in order to turn the Church and the nation back to God. For you reference, here are some key words related to this:

Great U.S. Humbling Prophetic Words:

Rick Joyner Civil War dream (April 2019). The fires burning in cities and riots in NYC and Chicago already has come to pass…

Key Strategic Words given decades ago:
John Paul Jackson – Coming Perfect Storm
Bob Jones – Perfect Storm

Grant Berry messianic friends wrecking ball vision very similar to Dana Coverstone dreams…

Part 2…

Finally, all of what’s going on fits my 2008 train wreck dream :

Important word from John Mulinde (click the link) who is Ugandan Apostolic leader in 2004
minute 6:12 in the video for USA:

  1. Mammon – my people have made money a god in my place
  2. Human pride in man’s achievements (Pharaoh: I built the Nile)
  3. Liberty to sin (hyper grace)

Raymond Mooi: Mammon and the Midianites from 2008 (part 1 and 2):

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

President John Adams 1798


Should there be separation or integration of Church and State; Church and Business?

How did we fall into money idolatry and greed?

Thesis I: The proliferation of greed (and the systemic lack of concern for the poor, for people) in the normal course of business practices of our nation which continues to spread largely unchecked, even unnoticed, is due to building upon a foundation of falsehood (building house on sand Matt 7:26).

That falsehood is the premise that business (and government) should be done in the absence of religion. Religion or faith should be practiced in private, goes the falsehood as it is a personal matter and has no place in business. Because of this lie being reinforced by shareholders, managements, governments, HR departments, and civil court rooms among other institutions, the enemy has crept in mostly unawares, allowing blind spots to grow writ large where few biblically anchored moral and ethical voices are allowed to speak up. Because too often our country’s founding Judeo-Christian faith must be “checked at the door” when it comes to business, it creates a vacuum of ethical and moral grounding – a relativism, which is filled in with rationalization of profitability, efficiency and expediency.

This is a conformity to a “white washed” set of business practices that is designed to be “swallowed” as a “business is business” in the name of efficiency and effectiveness (just leave faith private). It is a conformity to a “Spirit of this World” and the opposite of Holiness unto God (set apart and consecrated). (Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind -Romans 12:2)

Sometimes I refer to this as a barbell strategy. Make all you can, however you can (all is fair in love, war and business). Then, tithe and be generous with the spoils. If you do, God shines his favor on you. Many Christians fall into this trap. I fell into this trap. My Christian mentors encouraged me in this trap because it helped fund the ministry. I call it being a Business Pharisee. I have even heard the following quote used to ratify such an approach: “Earn as much as you can. Save as much as you can. Give as much as you can”- John Wesley

This premise is false. God cares as much and probably more about how you and I conduct our business practices and HOW we make money than what we do with the money.

Which leads us to…

Thesis II: The most impactful engine for socio-economic improvement, social justice, serving the poor, building up neighborhoods, giving people access to good jobs and education is business itself. It’s not the government. It’s not even churches. I would argue, business done well under God literally creates healthy economy, creates jobs, creates a type of family, demonstrates the gospel with deeds not just words, creates opportunity, and glorifies God. As Christians come together and serve the community together through our businesses, joined together in unity, loving our neighbor as ourselves, I believe there is no greater force of good that can be unleashed on a nation, region, state or city. Lastly, I believe the only viable platform to achieve this properly are privately owned companies (not publicly traded ones), funded by capital that is not attached to the traditional financial markets, banking, venture or private equity systems and influences. All such capital all comes with “strings attached” and a return on capital expectation as the top priority, really the only priority if we are honest (and therefore becomes the object of worship).

Salt and light. A light shining on a hill – Matt 5:15


Wall Street or Main Street

Who’s to blame?

What does our money idolatry look like?

In our weekly Zoom call (email if interested in joining), we discuss what is wrong with our current system and economy. Has the church been defensive about “Capitalism” and even tried to defend systemic greed? How have our financial markets systematized greed and how did we get here? Can it be undone? We discuss the sin of Sodom’s greed and specifically Ezekiel 16:49.

Wall Street issues

  • Hiding behind the opacity of “shareholder’s interests”
  • Wall Street profit “expectations” and the role of research analysts
  • Debt as leverage to maximize profit
  • Advent of the LBO and the hostile takeover in the 80s (“Greed is Good”)
  • Excess capital used for shareholder buybacks
  • Complexity of the civil justice system requires specialized attorneys to navigate
  • Rationalization of job relocation, elimination- explaining away decisions by “we had to do it” to preserve the company

Main Street issues

  • Manipulation of systems for extraction of money. Example: healthcare
  • Blame game: Wall Street is the scapegoat, yet all feed at it’s trough
  • Our consumer culture’s insatiable appetite for products and services
  • 70% of our GDP is consumer spending
  • Debt dependency of the consumer, corporate, municipalities, government
  • The Church and how its feeds on our consumer and money culture
  • Unholy alliance among politics, taxes and money
  • Parallels between chattel slavery and modern day economic slavery
  • Two income households the new requirement

Mentioned on the call last week, the “Field of Dreams” word from Rick Joyner in 1995. This is well worth reading:

It describes well the economic dynamic we are now entering into in the USA. It contrasts the chaos and fog of the situation on the ground, with the position of the Church being an oasis of hope, joy and unity and a “hospital” to those who are hurting.

Discussion: How could God use an alternative form of banking to help solve systemic poverty?

Problem: Today, banks are required by regulation, charter and profit motive to risk-adjust (extreme interest and fees) or deny lending to those who may be the most in need of help.

God said through Moses in Deuteronomy 15:7-8 “If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother. Rather be openhanded and freely lend him whatever he needs.”

Solution: How might God desire to dissolve systemic poverty in the context of Christian community through an alternative banking structure? We exchange ideas along these lines. Benevolence as part of investment. Banking that considers and obeys the Word of God.

…there will be no poor among you, since the Lord will most certainly bless you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance to possess, if only you will listen to and obey the voice of the Lord your God”

Deuteronomy 15:4-5

Conceptual model of investment structure:

Neither equity (ownership) or debt (loan), and without traditional recourse provisions. Instead with forgiveness provisions and with voluntary dividends that potentially better meets the biblical standard. We can use this as a discussion piece.

Conceptual model of banking:

Discussion: The “Transfer of Wealth”

Thanks to Merrick Finn last week for bringing this up and reminding me this week…

Back in 2007 in a lunch with Rick Joyner and Bob Jones at the Cracker Barrel somewhere in South Carolina, Bob mentioned to me that a “purpose” of like minded Spirit-led business people gathering together was: “To begin the transfer”.

I was like, what’s that? He went on to explain there is coming a transfer of wealth that will be part of the end-times harvest, as it is promised to God’s people in scripture. I was like oh…

Such scriptures are Proverbs 13:22: “The wealth of the wicked is laid up for the righteous” or similar scriptures like Job 27:16-17.

Of course, I had heard many from the prosperity movement speak of these scriptures, but it never made sense to me as it was being presented as a “God wants you to get rich” scheme.

Here are some scriptural examples of wealth transfer (they are all different types):

  • Abraham receives gifts from Egyptian Pharaoh (Genesis 12)
  • Isaac receives divine increase in the land of the Philistines (Genesis 26)
  • Jacob receives divine increase while working for Laban (Genesis 31)
  • Jacob and his family provided for from Egypt through Joseph (Genesis 41)
  • Israelites plunder the Egyptians before the Exodus (Exodus 3)
  • Solomon received gold from Queen Sheba (1 Kings 10)
  • Remnant of Judah received favor and wealth from Cyrus to rebuild the Temple (Ezra 1)

As a result, here is a quote from page I recently added which was essentially a paraphrase of what Bob prophesied that day:

The New Breed are inspired business people, gathering together to get the inspiration of God as to how to begin the transfer. The transfer being the transfer of wealth (people and resources) from Babylon (the wicked) into the Kingdom (the righteous – Prov 13:22) related to the end-times harvest (1 billion souls). This inspiration comes from communion with God (Intimacy – Song of Solomon), understanding the knowledge of God (Col 1:10; Hosea 4:6), and receiving the wisdom of God (1 Cor 12:8; Isaiah 11).

We will discuss what God is saying and doing at this time to each of us. We will inspire each other as to how God has inspired us regarding “the transfer”.

Hybrid of Ministry and Business

Discussion: “Hybrid” of ministry and business together

  • Power from the “natural/earthly” realm + “supernatural/heavenly” realm…
  • Hybrid power – “electric power” – liken to heavenly / supernatural / angelic help, through prayer, fasting, faith
  • Drawing from God’s grace, favor, mercy unlocking resources and relationships here on earth.
  • Drawing from heavenly treasures/resources/body parts.
  • “combustion” engine – natural power in natural gifts, talents, work

Two example dreams I had related to this “heavenly help” of hybrid power:

Dream: Father with a heavenly spreadsheet, diligently tracking all my family’s needs. Set on my college campus.

Dream #2: Learning to fly, defying gravity, teaching others how to do the same, representing defying the “financial” laws of gravity.

J.J. shared with us his “lightning” diagram illustrating an analogy of the process of how lightning strikes with how God works with his people supernaturally.

Proper Positioning Leads To Powerful Promises